TP0469 - Stokes Bay Two

Grid reference :	SZ 59586 98470
Type :	Bolt
Condition :	Good
Flush Bracket Number :	EA-BM
Current use :	Passive station
Station Number :	C2SZ5998
Historic use :	none
Waypoint :	TP0469
County :	Hampshire
Nearest town :	GOSPORT

Nearby trigpoints, placenames, caches. There are 10 photos for this trigpoint (view album). This trigpoint: Is ranked joint 2692nd with 35 other trigs (more). Has a mean score of 6.00/10 (from 12 logged visits) Was First logged: 27th Apr 2003 Was Last logged: 28th Apr 2010 Of the 12 logged visits, 5 recorded a location and of these.... All were within 8m The average error was 6m The closest was 1m

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Selection of photos for this Bolt. ©Pharisee ©Pharisee ©Pharisee By birders By Sapper See 5 more in the album.

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28th Apr 2010  12:57  by Pharisee

Gridref: SZ 59586 98469   FB Number: N/A  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

This one fascinated me as most people seem to log the Environmental Agency Bench Mark. I was sure that this was not the Ordnance Survey bolt so I downloaded the photo and engineers hand drawn map from the OS website, took a hi-vis jacket, two 50 metre tape measures, a hand held metal detector and a clipboard along to the location. Standing on the EA-BM and looking at the OS photo, it was obviously in totally the wrong location. The clincher was the note on the engineers drawing that states “Block 6 inches below surface” which the EA-BM very obviously isn’t. I’d noted a previous log from Hi-Tek, when in 2004 he found what appeared to be a ‘Berntsen’ close by so I set out my tape measures according to the OS engineers map (much to the fascination of some passing ‘muggles’). I didn’t find the stainless steel cover shown in Hi-Tek’s photo but in exactly the right location was a circular, cast iron cover secured with a single screw (should be two but one was missing). Selecting the correct tool from my mobile workshop (Leatherman Wave) I removed the screw and lifted the cover. Sure enough, about 6” below the surface was a vertical rod about 3” long. It was domed and had a drilled centre mark in the end. I’m certain that this is the OS station referred to on the OS web site. According to the OS, this site was last checked in March 2001 when the co-ordinates were recorded as N50° 46’ 57.8585” W001° 09’ 22.0978”. Converted to decimal minutes, that’s N50° 46.9643’ W001° 09.3683’ which is almost exactly what my 60CSx is showing in the photo. I suspect that this is what Hi-Tek found six years ago but the cover has been changed in the intervening period. I feel the information given in the ‘Flush Bracket Number’ field above is very misleading and should be removed.

The location ©Pharisee
The data shot ©Pharisee
This is what\'s under the cover. ©Pharisee

9th Feb 2010  18:04  by sarah and steve

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unknown  Score: 5/10

never seen one like this before!

19th Nov 2009  09:20  by asbown

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 6/10

Not sure about this 1, I don\\\'t think the EA bench mark is what we are looking, I took the O/S sketch with me(but no tape measure,clever that),the EA benchmark is certainly not in the right place according to the sketch, even without a tape I could tell that, I have left condition as unknown until somebody can tell me otherwise.UPDATE:17/05/2010 Have changed my logged condition to Cnf,suspected at the time the EA benchmark was not correct and now comfired.

24th Apr 2009  18:31  by pompeygarmin

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unknown  Score: 7/10

7th Apr 2009  11:15  by birders

Gridref: SZ 59591 98469   FB Number: EA-BM  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Parking was 20m from the bolt and it was easily found. Brilliant views over the Solent, currently the parking place of the huge US carrier Theodore Roosevelt

Ruth points to the bolt
GPS beside the bolt

18th May 2008  06:13  by patrick

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unknown  Score: 5/10

Found the metal stud (environmental agency bench mark) but could not find the Berntsen marker. There was a small hole nearby maybe its been damaged. Can anyone give me any more info.

environmental agency bench mark environmental agency bench mark

11th May 2008  20:11  by Mogwai Liz

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Stokes Bay Two Stokes Bay Two©Mogwai Liz

14th Jan 2007  16:20  by martinc

Gridref: SZ 59591 98476   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Great views over Solent. Bolt appears "rusty"

Stokes Bay Two ©martinc

12th Sep 2006  20:30  by Pyoung1s

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

27th Jun 2004  21:19  by Kitty Hawk

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

1st Trig point that I've logged so score is difficult to judge, but I figured it would score well. Hmm, I found a bolt. Will revisit next time I'm kite flying and look for the burntsen.

3rd Jan 2004  13:53  by Hi-Tek

Gridref: SZ 59587 98478   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

I have to disagree with Sapper on this one unless the bolt has been covered with a Berntsen marker since he located it. I found this today @ N50 46.966 W001 09.368. It was a few yards off the promenade in a park. I had to clean some mud off it to see the detail. GPSr elev = -5ft.

The Berntsen Marker Sorry about the mud!©Hi-Tek

27th Apr 2003  08:56  by Sapper

Gridref: SZ 59591 98477   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

On the windy Solent seafront - nice views.

Its just a bolt in the gound!